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(A True Typographic Tale) Monospace braindeath and the non-existent font

(A True Typographic Tale) Monospace braindeath and the non-existent font

I just added the following to my stylesheet:

samp, kbd, pre, code { font-family: "Monospace font handling in Firefox is braindead", monospace; font-size: 1em; } /* Non-existent        font used        to avoid scaling the specified  font        size by        13/16        in Firefox and other browsers. See http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2005/02/monospace-firefox-braindeath */

Why?

When it comes to monospaced fonts, I’m near-religious, in the sense that I don’t want to see someone else’s idea of what a good monospace font is. I can tolerate, but not like Courier New, I edit all my documents with Andale Mono, and I regard most other monospace fonts on Windows as “nonsense” or “garbage”. Which is why I don’t want to force a particular monospace font on my users either.

Imagine the following stylesheet:

body { font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 0.83em; line-height: 1.5; }  pre { font-family: monospace; font-size: 1em; }

Further, suppose that the default font size in your browser is 16px. What font size do you think you will get for preformatted text? If you assumed that Firefox would actually inherit the font size from the body element, giving you 16×0.83 ~= 13×1 ~= 13px, you’re wrong. Other browsers give you that.

In Firefox (at least on Windows), the default font-size for monospaced fonts is set at 13px 13×0.83 ~= 11×1 = 11. However, Firefox will only use this 13px default if, and only if the only suggested font alternative is “monospace”. Welcome fix:

pre { font-family: "Monospace font handling in Firefox is braindead", monospace; font-size: 1em; }

This will work well until someone has the Monospace font handling in Firefox is braindead font installed.

Comments

Comment from Lars Kleinschmidt on 2005-02-02 20:41

You should have a look at the Bitstream fonts. Monospace one is really nice.

Comment from Arve on 2005-02-02 20:45

I already have the Bitstream fonts installed. Ironically, the monospace variant is the only one I don’t like :-)

Comment from Lasse G. Dahl on 2005-02-02 22:16

The 13px default for monospaced fonts is a configuration option, which I for one finds pretty useful. I have 15px as the standard size on this computer, though.

With your new stylesheet, all of the monospaced fonts looks much bigger than the rest of the text. Why do you feel you have to override my settings?

Comment from Arve on 2005-02-03 22:25

Actually, Lasse, you are getting the font at the same size as the other fonts here, which is about equal to the specified 13px default in Firefox. With just the “monospace”, you would have been seeing 11px monospace fonts.

(Or actually, since I did a minor tweak with the font-size on body to get around a Firefox rounding error, it would have been 10px. 10px Courier New does not qualify as readable.

Comment from Roger Johansson on 2005-02-04 11:37

For what it’s worth, Safari also has problems with monospaced fonts when “monospace” is specified. I wrote a little about it a while ago: Sizing monospaced fonts.

Comment from Thomas Scholz on 2005-02-05 05:52

You need these extra monospace fonts for IE also. This browser goes wild, if use a skinned Windows XP and ‘monospace’ is the only value for ‘font-family’. See my screenshot. Black on black.

Comment from Chris Hester on 2005-02-10 14:21

Opera suffers from a different problem. If you turn off styles, monospaced fonts appear in a really light colour, making them hard to read. I came up with a user stylesheet (below) to override this, which is useful to mention here as it has a wider range of HTML tags you need to cover. (Arve - add these too to your stylesheet.)

code,tt,kbd,samp,var,pre {color:inherit;}

Comment from Arve on 2005-02-10 14:41

Thanks. Added (seems that I’d also forgotten to add a color on body, which I also added while I was at it).

Comment from David on 2005-11-18 11:24

Arve and anyone else reading this,

Testing this, for me:

(1) Fx doesn’t always exhibit this problem. When the font-size of the containing block has been modified is one case in which it does (though I haven’t messed around with a bunch of different values for the font-size to see if that makes any difference).

(2) You can put the placeholder font after monospace, so there’s no need to worry about the user possibly having it.

This discussion has been closed. No further comments may be added.

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Sizing monospaced fonts

Something that’s been bothering me for a while is how difficult it seems to be to make text set in a monospaced font be of reasonably similar size across browsers and platforms, unless you resort to using pixels as the unit.

Regardless of size or font used, Safari always seems to show monospaced fonts much smaller than other browsers (except for OmniWeb, which is based on Safari, so no big surprise there). Not sure if it was a bug or not, I started to experiment a little.

I created four paragraphs of text and assigned a different class to each paragraph, each with a different font-family, plus “monospace” as a generic backup font.

As expected, all paragraphs were rendered smaller in Safari than in other browsers.

Then I accidentally removed “monospace” from one of the declarations, and bang! – Safari increased the text size of the corresponding paragraph to match the size of the other browsers. Huh? Why should that affect the text size? Considering that all of the fonts I have specified are available on my system, that seems like a very strange behaviour.

I can’t see anything wrong with the XHTML or CSS in my test case, so I’m guessing it is a bug in Safari.

Is this a known problem I just haven’t heard about? And if so, does anyone know of a better workaround than not specifying a generic font?

Update: Well, that was a whole lot of feedback ;-). Just in case nobody else has seen this odd behaviour, I have sent Apple a bug report.

Update 2: I asked about this on the css-discuss mailing list, and from the responses I got, it looks like Safari isn’t the only browser where predictably sizing monospaced fonts can be a problem. Felix Miata provided a bug report and a test case, and Philippe Wittenbergh sent a link to a test case for a related problem with Japanese text.

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    Gender symbol fonts


    ¶ I was struck by the lack of complete fonts with gender symbols. The TeX/Metafont community lives with Denis Roegel's Genealogy font, created in 1996 and updated in 1999. Denis Roegel essentially compiled the genealogical symbols found in Roland Waldi's Wasy font (1992), which has a male and female symbol set, and Knuth's "gen" font, and added the standard symbols for males and females.

    ¶ The truetype world probably is most acquainted with Marvin Vogel's useful (and free!) symbol font Marvosym, which contains symbols for sexless, male, female and hermaphrodite. Marvin recognizes that there are other people in this world besides straight males or females, but the symbol he suggests for hermaphrodites is not the one used by or suggested by the world of sex experts [read on below]. Curtis Clark made the free font called Female and Male Symbols (1996), which contains the same gender symbols as Marvosym.

    ¶ WordPerfect's WP IconicSymbolsA (1993) just has a male and a female symbol.

    ¶ There are, of course, a number of commercial outfits that have the standard pair of gender symbols in some of their fonts. Particularly artistic are P22's Koch Signs 3 and Koch Signs 4. Whether by design or accident, these also have a glyph for hermaphrodites. An even more complete set is Ann's Astro family of fonts from Dingbatcave (Ann Stretton), at 10 dollars per style.

    Unicode has reserved position 9792 for the female sign, and 9794 for the male sign. Nothing is reserved for the others. Some Unicode fonts indeed do have these two characters. However, no Unicode font has more than this bare minimum, and thus, the Unicode path is a cul-de-sac.

    ¶ So, that is the current state of affairs. The world's gay community started using their own symbols, derived from those for male (the symbol for Mars) and female (the symbol for Venus). But, not to be left out, the bisexuals, both male and female by birth, suggested their own glyphs. Outnumbered but not outgunned, the hermaphrodites picked their own symbol, that of Mercury. But it does not end there. The transexuals do not fit into any of the above categories, so they have their own symbols. Transgendered people are usually defined as those who are aware of all people of all sexual orientations and preferences, and approach relationships in a gender-free manner. Well, they have their own symbol. I never located the symbol for eunuchs, but I am sure there must be one. Of course, the combinations multiply. However, I refuse to create symbols for gay hermaphrodites, transsexuals who like eunuchs, and males who had two sex change operations (to get back to where they started from).

    ¶ If you have a special request though, send it to me, and I will see if I can make a font for you. Always for free, of course.

    The symbols

    ¶ The ultimate place for symbols is the highly recommended site Symbols.com. For definitions of transsexual, transgender, bisexual, and other terms, see here. Some symbols are shown here. Official books always lag behind, so I went looking for what people actually use to represent different sexual orientations, preferences and situations. At present, the world seems to agree on the following symbols:

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    Mars, or Tuesday: symbol for males.

    Venus, or Friday: symbol for females.

    Gay males.

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    Lesbians.

    Aware of the joint cause of gays and lesbians. Also (sometimes) transsexuals. Also, quite universally in science, used for hermaphrodites. See here. Symbol.com states that it is used in botany for double-sexed plants. Also, (sometimes) heterosexuals in general. See here or here.

    Bisexuals. Sometimes used for people fighting for gay and lesbian rights.

    Transgender. See here.

    Another symbol for transgender: see here.

    Bisexuals.

    Bisexuals, as proposed here. Closely related in some places to the symbol for bisexual men.

    Bisexual men.

    Bisexual women.

    Mercury, or Wednesday: Hermaphrodites. See here. The Greek equivalent of Mercury is Hermes, hence the name. Apparently, biologists use this for hermphrodites.


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    ¶ The Sekushii font is part of the Sugaku series. It has all the symbols above, in many sets, both light and medium weight. There are straight-arrowed sets for combining with sans serif text, flared arrows for serif text, and fun experiments and extensions with various sexual undertones. And, it is free! Have a ball.

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    3. Grammar The syntax of the CSS fragment that is allowed in the HTML "style" attribute can be formally specified as follows: inline-stylesheet : S* [ declarations | declarations-block | inline-ruleset* | stylesheet ] ; declarations : declaration [ ';' S* declaration ]* ; declarations-block : '{' S* declarations '}' S* ; inline-ruleset : [ pseudo* S* [ ',' S* pseudo* S* ]* ]? declarations-block ; Please refer to the grammar in appendix D of the CSS2 specification [CSS2] for the definition of the symbols not defined here. The same rules for forward-compatible parsing apply to the inline style sheet as to a normal style sheet. See chapter 4 of the CSS2 specification. 4. Cascading order CSS already defines how style sheets and "style" attributes are cascaded together for the case where the inline fragment consists of declarations only. In addition to simple declarations, the style attribute is now permitted to take rulesets. These rules have the additive specificity of their selectors in addition to the specificity of the style attribute. The examples indicate what is added to each of the specificity components using the familiar '+=' notation. Example:

    This is an example of a paragraph with inline style attribute rules to create a spot effect, in this case, a drop-cap first letter.

    Example: Example of a hyperlink to the CSS home page with special one-off visited and hover effects.

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    1. History HTML 4.0 introduced the "style" attribute, whose contents could contain any styling language (through the use of META http-equiv Content-Style-Type), but by default, and in practice, has only contained CSS. XHTML Modularization introduced the Style Attribute Module which also has a "style" attribute whose semantics are the same as that in HTML 4. SVG also has a language neutral "style" attribute, whose language is specified with the contentStyleType attribute which has the default value of "text/css". MathML states that all MathML elements accept the "style" attribute to facilitate compatibility with CSS. Not all XML-based document formats have a "style" attribute to permit the user to use CSS to style documents and specific elements in documents, but in case a certain format has a "style" attribute and the attribute accepts CSS as its value, then this specification describes the attribute's syntax and interpretation. 2. Examples Here are a few examples: Only setting properties on the element itself, no pseudo-elements or pseudo-classes:

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